Gal 4:3-7
But when the time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under law, to redeem those under law, that we might receive the full rights of sons.
Because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, "Abba, Father." So you are no longer a slave , but a son; and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir. NIV
Are you waiting on a day yet to be realized where you take hold of such a great promise? What holds you back if NOT what others think and believe to be true? And what is ANY faith God has NOT found pleasing?
What invasive thoughts could possibly "Prove" themselves effectual which labor against what God says is true? What is it about any series of words that look to oppose what Gods says is true and effectual?
It's easy to read of someone other than ourselves, "You have been Found highly favored of God", yet what has proved to be the history of "Selfish" souls who then turn and torment such praise?
The way only a selfish soul knows to twist and bend words to where nearly every surrounding soul also finds it nearly impossible to please God but even worse able to "Believe" the words of God the WAY He has gone to great lengths in order to present those same words?
Where do words get their breath when spoken? Does this peculiar wind originate only from a set of lungs?
Luke 6:45
The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks .
NIV
1 John 4:16-18
God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him. In this way, love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment, because in this world we are like him.
NIV
1 John 4:16-17
God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him. In this way, love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment, because in this world we are like him. NIV
In terms of a 'WE" exactly what is it that defines the truthful consideration of the "We"? Further to mean One with Christ?
While finding ones self encased in a body that's also surrounded by and being bombarded by many different things which oppose this promised "Growth" also being observed as "Christ In You", how do you find and what is your commentary about such an event?
Have you determined the evidence of that to interpret as selective good deeds that are done on His behalf? The type of deeds done where You are the one who determines when, where and how they come into being?
Plans that ONLY you could have master minded and brought to pass having managed and manipulated the world around you which includes the souls of others?
I once heard a preacher on a christian radio state, God is in control of EVERY possible set of circumstances.
This thought seemed peculiar and challenging in the moment, yet the life raft came in the form of a question, "Is it also your opinion God is in control of every soul found to be a part of ones circumstances?
In my own life I've personally had to make the determination in those times and circumstances where I'd found myself being deceived and lied to, cursed, slapped, spat on, kicked, punched, Shot at, hand cuffed, beaten (on more than one occasion to the point of unconsciousness) whether or NOT God was in control in those moments.
You can call it reflecting, retrospect or whatever seems fitting, but I can say with all honesty I didn't enjoy the vast majority of those circumstances nor to this day do I blame OR credit God for ANY of them.
I believe the life of a fool finds a person as much as I do a wisdom that comes from God that calls out to all men from every roof top if need be where there is also a Hope that has been based on all that is True "In Him".
I chose to believe it a great loss in those circumstances because I was NOT "In Christ" during those moments. I consider it unfortunate that I was beaten and spat on etc yet an even greater loss because I wasn't living a "Truthful Life" that can only be found as a Joy while In Christ.
"Do all things as if unto the Lord" is a huge bedrock. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" is another yet the fact God spoke those words about the spirit He alone can provide should be seen as the mortar (Identity) which holds them together.
I believe foolishness persuades those who choose to live the life "Style" that God determines to be that of a "Fool". I believe that not all pain that one endures in this world should be counted as a loss or a sign of failure.
We all struggle in this life as each looks to find their beloved identity. God will continue to be the God you suggest you serve and that because of the way YOU see Him.
In terms of believing in an invisible God who says to walk by faith and NOT by sight, what have you believed to be True about Him?
Whose breath is breathing life into the words you've chosen to "Believe" to be True?
Your accounting of God has everything to do with the type of God you suggest You serve.
You will more often find yourself ultimately disappointed when you try to compare the type of Love man has conditioned himself to express in this world and that because of his own needs to the type of Love that God speaks of Himself which surpasses ALL understanding.
Are there ever times in the life you NOW live when the Wisdom of God surpasses the emotion of "Feeling" Good about yourself?
Are there times when you only feel Good about yourself when You know beyond doubt that ONLY God is Good?
You can't see what You haven't heard and that "With your heart".
God is more than rules and regulations handed down that have been tainted to suit the purpose of selfish souls. Trusting that ONLY God is Good and Only God can truly depict "Love" at that all times is a Good Place to begin and end within our present circumstances many are trying to fit into a "Life" lived that is based on who it is that's "True, Righteous and Faithful".
When each day becomes a holy day which urges you to see that "Today is the Day", then each morning you rise and ask for your daily bread will begin to usher in a whole New Light where ALL things are made New!
Gal 6:15-18
Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is a new creation . Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule, even to the Israel of God.
Finally, let no one cause me trouble, for I bear on my body the marks of Jesus.
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit, brothers. Amen.
NIV
Isa 58:13-14
"If you keep your feet from breaking the Sabbath and from doing as you please on my holy day,
if you call the Sabbath a delight and the LORD's holy day honorable, and if you honor it by not going your own way and not doing as you please or speaking idle words, then you will find your joy in the LORD, and I will cause you to ride on the heights of the land and to feast on the inheritance of your father Jacob."
The mouth of the LORD has spoken.
NIV
Yes, only God is good. God is Spirit and we have to walk through our 'wilderness' once we come out of Egypt (the world), and pick up our daily 'manna' in order to know what is good and what is evil in God's eyes. Just as Isaiah ch. 7 relates that Jesus, who was Spiritually 'God with us', had to know how to refuse the evil and choose the good, so too do we have to learn this after we are born on the Spirit.
ReplyDeleteWhere you say :- 'I believe that not all pain that one endures in this world should be counted as a loss or a sign of failure.', I agree.
All the things I went through before I became born again have caused me to have empathy with those who go through the same, and therefore I have sympathy and understanding. This brings lack of judgement on another, yet causes me to want to spread the gospel of reconciliation with God through Jesus.
Thank You Brenda, It appears the same Gospel has also reached you. There's always more in play in this life than many souls are willing to Truthfully acknowledge.
DeleteIf this life and the dealings of this world were ONLY about mankind it would make sense why the reasoning of a naked mind (absence of God) could dominate ones ability to reason and somehow NOT see God through it all.
I would suggest God bless, yet He already has having believed Him.
Well my brother, you surely have a way with words, far better than I have :-)
ReplyDeleteSo please tell me in plain English, did the creator God of the Bible sent someone else into this world, a so called 'Son' an offspring of Himself??
Did God sent the second Son Jesus just like He sent the first son Adam into this world (Luke 3:38)?
You said, "I once heard a preacher on a christian radio state, God is in control of EVERY possible set of circumstances.
This thought seemed peculiar and challenging in the moment, yet the life raft came in the form of a question, "Is it also your opinion God is in control of every soul found to be a part of ones circumstances?"
Concerning that statement, I think that we all have assumptions and opinions, but in your opinion, is God in control of every possible set of circumstances?
Paul,
DeleteI certainly 'Agree" with your assessment that we ALL have opinions as well make assumptions.
I believe the "conclusion(s)" a person draws from each God given day when all (life here) is said and done are the only things a personage can take with them into the presence of God as if the Judgement phase of eternity.
Obviously we both can read and have most of our faculties with regard to reasoning in operation. I think for your sake it is more important what You think within Your circumstances than it is what I think, don't you?
Obviously you've given this more thought than I have Hence the "hinge" the doors that either lead into or out of your life swing on.
I'm not sure what you're pursuing by way of your pointed question Nor do I know you OR the depth of what you're thinking well enough to broadcast a response as if a "One fits all answer".
I refuse to build on the foundations of another has laid unless I have a "Clear" understanding that God is leading me to that specific person having been equipped with a specific message for that person.
It appears to me you've given this more thought than I have, so please feel free to expound your perspective based on what You believe to be True.
I can however off you this as part of what I believe to be true.
I believe Jesus was ALSO asked by Phillip to show "US" the (His) Father, as if asking for the benefit of everyone present at that time, yet Jesus gave the only response He could because that response also came from His Father.
John 14:8-11
Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."
Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father '? Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves.
NIV
I'm glad to hear that you believe in conclusions my friend.
ReplyDeleteSo then, I think that you can see the conclusion in John 14:8-11?
Jesus is saying that He is the Father, that means that there is NO OTHER person who is called the Father but the Lord Jesus Christ alone, just has He has said, 'He and the Father are ONE', NOT TWO.
And in John 14:9 Jesus said 'he who has seen me has seen the FATHER', in other words, you are looking at the Father, there is no other Father than the one standing in front of you.
Do you believe the Scriptures who states that the Lord Jesus Christ has NO Father or mother or genealogy Hebrew 7:3 ?
You said, "I think for your sake it is more important what You think within Your circumstances than it is what I think, don't you?"
Not so my brother, I'm very much interested in what you think and say and for that reason I have asked you questions.
As for me, the Lord Jesus Christ has called me to be His ambassador, a representative of Him with the ministry of reconciliation.
Therefore it is my interest and the interest of the one I represent that everyone who claims to believe in God would believe in Jesus Christ alone and in NO OTHER.
Whatever you say or preach has a foundation, and if that foundation is NOT the Lord Jesus Christ, then you have built on the wrong foundation.
Perhaps grant me to shake your building in order to test your foundation.
Paul,
ReplyDeleteOnce again I see no relevance in pursuing this the way You are as to what I believe. Especially If Christ isn't glorified through that entire process. That said here's you last chance, so please make your point or move on to higher ground...
I'm satisfied with the thought My creator sent His Son as a messenger. I'm glad to accept at face value the collective words God provided that testify to all that He's done and especially the "WHY" He did.
You ask "Do you believe The Scriptures"? Yes I do.
Do I believe the way all men interpret those same scripture? No, I do not.
You also ask as if one question (as if speaking in the stead of scripture) If I believe that the Lord Jesus has No Father? As I pointed out before (John 14) what verbiage did Jesus use to express himself as the Son of God as he did to Phillip? The essence of what Jesus uses as specific descriptive words in order to express His person in the flesh is also what I believe and am willing to state.
Why should I look to go beyond that same expression He used in scripture if Jesus saw fit to express Himself in such a manner?
Do you trust that God has given you a great revelation to share? If yes then feel free to share, yet don't expect everyone to run towards what you have to say with open arms especially where there is not a solid relational trust foundation.
Your own words state you have an "Interest" do they not? Then state that interest and why as if I am a stranger to you because clearly you disagree with something I've said or suggest?
If you think that I'm leading others to hell (hades) by way of what I express, then make your claim and share the "Why" you do?
In biblical antiquity when two were found to be in disagreement you'd also read them introducing that notion with "Let God judge between Us" before they said what they did. Just be remember "Thus sayeth the Lord" are some HUGE shoes to fill...
All I can give you is my word that won't stone you if you do, BUT I can't tell you until I hear what you have to say whether or not I'll exercise my two feet...
What you didn't ask is, Am I willing to believe (trust) You or anyone else that comes along that practically "Demands" a response. No, absolutely not! And much of that has to do with the fact My Lord in His mercy didn't approach me in that manner
Jesus The God sent Christ is the Only One that is worthy enough to refute such definitive thoughts with respect to My Salvation.
He's provided the Holy Spirit to prick the hearts of men as well placed His spirit in me. God doesn't stop there though He also has provided the life size recordings in Holy Writ who testify to this Good work and leading within their own lives we are to believe.
Firstly, will you be there by my side when I'm before the judgment seat of God as my counsel? No
No more than will my own earthly father be by my side and bidding a defense on behalf of my personage as ALL that I've believed to be True.
Hair splitting is not a profitable practice nor is placing Gods word(s) in opposition with itself for the sake of comfort in what one is choosing to believe.
As far as tracing things out to their conclusion, I hope you're NOT leading up to trying to explain where you THINK God received His existence (origin) from?
There is so much more that lies behind the often cloaked, conjured and/or provoked thoughts of mere men in their imagination(s).
Since I do believe the Jesus recorded in scripture to be the ONLY true God and the One Christ (savior) He said He sent, that God is my creator whom also has set my soul is at rest in knowing that as the foundation and God I personally accept (proclaim).
Well brother, I am glorifying my Lord in everything I say about Him, don't you think so?
ReplyDeleteYou said, "I'm satisfied with the thought My creator sent His Son as a messenger. I'm glad to accept at face value the collective words God provided that testify to all that He's done and especially the "WHY" He did."
Again I need to ask you, who is that creator who sent His Son as a messenger?
I'm not satisfied with that thought and there are many others who are also not satisfied.
That is a legitimate question my friend, it is for your good and for everyone who reads that comment.
Yes I know that you believe the Scriptures, but I have asked you, whether you believe that the Lord Jesus Christ does NOT have a Father.
Obviously, if the Lord Jesus has a Father, He is NOT and can NOT be the Lord God the Almighty the creator of heaven and earth.
Therefore that question is most important for everyone who believes in Jesus Christ.
Failing to understand that question leads us to believing in many gods (polytheism), the trinity.
The churches are full of people who believe whatever they want to believe, they even pray to this unknowable God through a little god called Jesus.
But that should NOT be so with us, we are supposed to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and in NO other, by that I mean in no other who is called Father.
That is supposed to be the basic revelation of everyone who believes in Jesus Christ and not just of me. It troubles me immensely when most preachers are talking about a god they never identify.
To say that we believe in God means absolutely nothing, even the demons believe in God and tremble.
When we are talking about God, the Buddhists think that we are taking about Buddha, the Muslims think that we are talking about Allah, the Jehovah Witnesses about Jehovah, and worst of all the Christians are thinking that we are talking about their three person gods, the trinity.
Don't you think that there is something seriously wrong??
Where are those who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ?
I consider myself one of those who believes in Jesus Christ my Lord and my ONLY GOD.
Of course it is my intention to convince you and everyone who reads that comment to believe ONLY in the Lord Jesus Christ just as I do.
It is obvious that we cannot believe and preach TWO Masters (Gods), I speak plainly and I do not have a hidden agenda.
Yes my brother, "Thus sayeth the Lord" are HUGE shoes to fill, but that is exactly what YOU and I ought to say to this evil and unbelieving world. It is the great commission of the Lord.
If the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ cannot say, "Thus sayeth the Lord" then there is something drastically wrong.
Most of the time and on most blogs when I say 'Thus sayeth the Lord', they cut me off and call me heretic and don't post my comments etc.
But what do you think, do I speak in my own name or in the Name of the Lord of hosts Jesus Christ of Nazareth?
Well brother, I am glorifying my Lord in --> everything --> I say about Him, don't you think so?
ReplyDeleteMy response, "No" and that because its not only words that speak, would you agree? The help mate I trust God placed in My life several decades ago also helped me when she was honest enough with me to share and bring about change in saying, "It's not what you're saying that upsets me, it's how your saying what you do have to say"!
Your own words invite controversy Paul. Controversy you want to be aired.
Do I think controversy that has been MORE than well thought out by an individual be aired as if for ALL to heed? Plainly put, "No"!
That said why should I step into that court room with you? A courtroom where You sit as the judge as you bait and switch with words while playing "You said- I said" until one of us gets fatigued?
I personally see you doing the same thing with the words of God...I also see someone who has a very strong soul, yet I also saw that same man in Saul of Tarsus...
If God has given you such a great revelation then once again as I stated clearly earlier, PLEASE feel free to share yet also take heed of my disclaimer...
In terms of the body of Christ and the protocol God sets forth for correction in that same body, have you gone to your brother or sister in private (one on one) first or extended that invitation? No you haven't..
So we come full circle, Do you think what I'm broadcasting on a blog site I've chosen to host is going to send others to hell? If yes then do what you trust you should do and do it with all of your heart and not just your head knowledge.
Obviously you know the word of God (Christ) yet satan also knew same when he confronted Jesus the son of man.
High and lifted minds assume others do NOT also have discernment, yet their failure is they have yet to recognize their own short comings as the failure which speaks to the WHY they are often finding themselves unable to teach others.
And I quote...
Most of the time and on most blogs when I say 'Thus sayeth the Lord', they cut me off and call me heretic and don't post my comments etc.
On the surface it might sound like you're in good company if you also believe the MO of Jesus was Only that of a rebel.
Why don't you send me your email if you still want to flesh out a matter. THERE we can do it in private instead of broadcasting the things that make us so distant/far apart in your thinking.
Why don't YOU allow others to decide for themselves IF you are your bothers keeper while suggesting YOU are in calling everyone Brother.
Best regards,
sw